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Now a harddrive is ... ...
install second disc (1.9gb) to hdd takes 5-10 mins then never needing it again.
the rest of the time is to finally celebrate a racing title with the most user/community content online and offline including racing, tuning, painting, trading, buying, selling, sharing, filming, editing, photos and finally certified/uncertified leaderboards for each mentioned category to post your individual hidden talents..........Dammnnn!!
sure beats the traditional race, tune, race, race, race formats.
im sure everyone has some skill in forza 3's different modes, so get in and fiddle!!!!
The 360 is showing its weaknesses very early, and I think its about to get worst, ff13 anyone, and after hearing the naughty dog people talk about using up the ps3 power and space wise. I'm sure any company that wants to compete, will have to do the same. reall bad for M$ if this game is multi plat....
Oh well, I'm a ps3 boy myself, so im in the clear..lol
Very early?!? The X360 was relased in 2005, we are in 2009! Are you one of those players that still say "next gen" when refering to X360 and PS3 instead of current gen, even ~4 years after the X360 was released?
I guess X360 is doomed! OMG you need multiple discs!!!!1111111111111111 I remember games such as Final Fantasy 7 that required multiple discs, that game was doomed, no one played it because you had to change discs (which you won't even need to do with Forza since 2nd disc is like optional DLC that you install, except that it is free when buying the game)
When there are games on the PS3 with better graphics, loads of content, using 25-50 Gig BD discs that have NO installs and stream everything off the disc leaving your HDD free to take advantage of actual DLC and other media content, it really goes to show that Sony was right, and all the criticisms levied against blu-ray were just FUD and marketing spin to pedestal the 360.
The drive speeds are comparable to the DVD drive. Any extra performance the 360's DVD drive gives is negligable to developers. Blu-ray's drive speed has a constant read speed that the DVD drive does not and never reads at full capacity anyway. The faster spinning speed also risks scratching discs if they're improperly built which is just what many early 360s did. Claims of data duplication needed for PS3 games are laughable because data duplication is also done on 360 games and is a completely normal practice done for nearly all games since they were on CDs. Also it turns out that many third party games that required installs on the PS3 but not the 360 were because the devs developed on the 360 first and were tossing the DVD footprint onto the blu-ray instead of optimizing it for blu-ray and then making PS3 owners install practically the whole thing to run the game.
Blu-ray was needed this generation, and there are ample examples showing why. Detractors of the format and the PS3 simply need to admit they were wrong and move on.
Sony took a huge gamble with BR and they won it but if HD-DVD had been the winner, it would have been a different story. Microsoft and Nintendo simply didn't want to do that gamble, they knew DVD, while smaller, would still be enough this gen. Multiple discs never doomed a console or a game so far, I don't see why it would be different now. Obvisouly a disc with more storage like BR is more convenient but did gamers think it was worth paying the extra price for BR instead of having multiple discs in what, 5% of the games released? Looks like a no if you add the sales of MS and Nintendo vs Sony.
While you can still get neat games on DVD and on multi-DVDs when you need to, DVD is still holding developers back from what they would otherwise achieve. And this is particularly frustrating where multiplatform games are concerned. Games can be good on DVD, but they can be far better off using blu-ray. If all the Forza content was on one disc, then those extra cars could be used by the AI to race against, and your HDD would be free to use for all the other content LIVE offers. Also developers making games for 360 have made it be known that they are designing games around the limitations of DVD, so they're having to cut back on their offerings and plans due to storage limitations and not all of them feel the need to put content on an extra disc. And depending on how many discs you use for 360 games, there is a limit and going over that limit means paying Microsoft extra royalties for extra manufacturing. Developers like Square Enix have stated there is no room on DVD to add in Japanese language support, and we will not be able to visit past locations/missions separated by disc. So all sorts of concessions are being made, however minor, that would otherwise benefit a lot of gamers.
At the end of the day Blu-ray is a better format for today's generation fo games. Which is not to say 360 and the Wii can't do well enough with what they offer or even be more popular. It's simply that better quality and achievement and advancements in gaming may only be possible on PS3 thanks in large part to blu-ray.
Go get a girlfriend already
Stop bagging a game because it needs two discs already.
Geez, what losers.
waiting 10-13mins install on hard disk per chapter due the slowness of the blu-rays ..((*cough* MSG4)), is - no big deal - ?
or maybe GTA on ps3 is not playable without installation!
i own both consoles.. and u cant use the blu-ray card anywhere...... well maybe exclusive movies on blu-ray
Games like Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 stream off the disc and require no installs at all. What do you have to say about that?
MGS4 was a game so big Kojima complained that even a 50GB blu-ray disc wasn't big enough, primarily due to high quality sound files. Usually data duplication helps, but there was no more room on a 50GB disc to do so, which is why it must instead install reqired assets. There's no way a game like MGS4 could fit onto multiple DVDs comfortably. It would require so many discs to swap and you would STILL need to install each one before using it! So imagine that! This is why MGS4 will never be on the 360, at least not with the same quality that it has on the PS3.
The reason some games on PS3 require installs and not on the 360, is because they were developed with DVD in mind and then the DVD footprint was lazily tossed onto the blu-ray disc without any optimization and made to install to run.
and by the way xbox 360 games are free :D